Letter: Stop linking plastic bag bans with reusable bags
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EDITOR,

The extreme environmentalists are demanding that Scotts Valley ban plastic bags, an idea that I fully support. However, the only reason that they tie that ban to the issue of charging for paper bags is to force everyone to carry around reusable bags. Just because they like carrying cloth bags around with them doesn't mean that we all want to do it.

I support Mayor Reed and the others that are postponing the decision as long as the extremists insist on connecting the two issues together. I'm just waiting for the environmentalists to admit that their "reusable" bags won't last a lifetime and when they are disposed of and end up in the landfill they will be there for decades beyond the time that paper bags have long deteriorated.

Get off your high horses and leave those of us that have appreciated having paper bags included in the prices we pay at the retailers alone. Virtually everyone I know that takes home paper bags continues to use them for other purposes until they are no longer useful. Ban the plastic. Forget the fees. How hard can that be?

Don't we already have enough government control without them telling merchants how to run their businesses?

Elwin Haddix, Ben Lomond

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hardboiledblue
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March 10, 2014
Nonymouse, glad someone does their homework on this issue in Scotts Valley. I'm encouraged! However, AB2449 was the chicken before the egg. It stipulated that fees on plastic bags could not be imposed. So municipalities imposed BANS on plastic bags. The court process (probably due to plastic bag huggers) and the combination of CEQA requirements determined you cannot ban one bag witout charging for the other so as to encourage people to use neither. I'll have to check my notes but I think AB2449 was extended through 2015 or whatever. In any case, I'll take your research as a form of apology. I appreciate your diligence. It's the only way people learn.

- hbB
hardboiledblue
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March 09, 2014
nonymouse, AB 2449 included a provision that prevented local communities from putting a fee on plastic checkout bags. I'll take my apology now.
nonymouse
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March 10, 2014
First you said, "By state law there has to be a fee on paper bags when plastic bags are banned." As far as I can tell, that's false.

Now you say, "AB2449 included a provision that prevented local communities from putting a fee on plastic checkout bags." That's true, but Mr. Haddix supports banning plastic bags, not any fee. Also, AB2449 was only in effect until January 1, 2013:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/05-06/bill/asm/ab_2401-2450/ab_2449_bill_20060930_chaptered.pdf

hardboiledblue
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March 07, 2014
Mr. Haddix, either you are lying about the mayor

believing so-called extremists want fees for paper bags to force everyone to carry around reusable bags, OR you and the mayor are deceitful. I hope you do not speak for the mayor. By state law there has to be a fee on paper bags when plastic bags are banned. The reason: To carry around reusable bags. Get off your donkey and learn the facts.

nonymouse
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March 08, 2014
hardboiledblue, either your brain's addled or you're lying about Mr. Haddix. There is no such state law in California.



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